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Paul Topping's avatar

I find the AI industry's answers to accusations of infringement ludicrous. They are using huge amounts of IP they don't own as source code for a software application and making money off it. Calling it "training" and "learning" changes nothing. The fact their process converts the content into billions of parameters changes nothing.

Statistical analysis of content is fair use. It is equivalent to reading. But as soon as LLMs start producing words and expressions of ideas that are solely based on this massive amount of ripped off data, they are competing with the owners of the IP. This is infringement, plain and simple.

As the US Copyright Office says: "What is copyright infringement? As a general matter, copyright infringement occurs when a copyrighted work is reproduced, distributed, performed, publicly displayed, or made into a derivative work without the permission of the copyright owner."

The fact that they infringe many copyrights shouldn't let them off the hook either. Rip off one copyright holder, you are infringing. Rip off thousands or millions of them, then you're ok. I don't think so!

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Roumen Popov's avatar

During training the models minimize the difference between their output and the training data, so if the model is well trained it would output stuff very close to the training data under the same conditions that were used during the training, so it could be argued that a very close copy of the training data exists encoded in the model's weights and can be obtained with the right prompting. Isn't that grounds for copyright infringement? It's like a jpegged copy of an image is still a copy even though the image is encoded and to get it one needs a jpeg decoder.

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