I don't want any kind of AI in my life. I want higher wages, shorter working days, a healthy nature, no war, affordable housing and spend my day more with friends and family and do things that interest and matter to me. AI will NOT do that, doesn't matter what kind of it.
No. Because the inherent problem is power. If you have a system that wants to generate profit over everything else it doesn't matter what approach to AI one has. It will always be abused and be used to make profit and to get more power at the expense of everyone else. We don't just invent a different form of AI and suddenly our problems are solved. False prophets.
That's true mostly in the case of the Big Personalities in Big Tech—but there are lots of smaller, quieter, humbler entities working on real world problems, employing artificial intelligence systems. In fact, some of the problems our world faces today are so large and complex that they do require the power of AI systems—along with human intelligence—to resolve them. Things like climatic systems, medicine, energy, manufacturing, supply chains...
You've got an even more optimistic view of it than I.
A fully autonomous AGI is absolutely a desire of military officials and despotic governments all over the world. I don't expect anything as mad as the scenario from Horizon Zero Dawn, but an autonomous gun platform mass murdering civilians because an officer didn't know how to give it good instructions? Or worse yet an officer or despot giving the drones instructions that humans might balk at like slaughtering a bunch of unarmed women and children.
That's absolutely 100% going to happen if a reliable autonomous decision making program can be created.
I remain hopeful that another AI winter of decades will happen, and even if it doesn't people proposing alternate models aren't going to be any more successful than the people trying for it with LLMs.
When I was in college, AI was my passion. In fact AI has been my passion and dream for the past 3 decades ever since college days. The past almost 2 years (since chatgpt) have been tough to the degree that now I don't even want to tell any one that I am interested in AI any more, as that word now just reminds me of grifters and swindlers. To me, AI is more about discovering and modelling how the mind and brain works. It is such an interesting and beautiful subject. GenAI and LLM just nauseate me and make me feel like wanting to puke.
what you describe can only be achieved with automation of human labour and only AI can do that, not the current "AI" but a real AI. The other thing that needs to change is that automation/AI must become a property of all people not just some bunch of tech bros
What I find amazing is that nobody else that I follow is talking about this retrenchment and clear turning point.
I feel that there is a lot of denial going on at the highest levels and that even many people that I have trusted as sound decision makers are being fooled.
"Still, I won’t declare victory on my predictions of the deflation of GenAI bubble yet."
That is wise. Times have never been better, despite the hype.
Next we will see intelligent agents that can do reasoning and planning. Approximate reasoning, of course, but a notable improvement from what we have now.
I don't want any kind of AI in my life. I want higher wages, shorter working days, a healthy nature, no war, affordable housing and spend my day more with friends and family and do things that interest and matter to me. AI will NOT do that, doesn't matter what kind of it.
Some approach to AI might help with some of that; GenAI won’t.
No. Because the inherent problem is power. If you have a system that wants to generate profit over everything else it doesn't matter what approach to AI one has. It will always be abused and be used to make profit and to get more power at the expense of everyone else. We don't just invent a different form of AI and suddenly our problems are solved. False prophets.
That's true mostly in the case of the Big Personalities in Big Tech—but there are lots of smaller, quieter, humbler entities working on real world problems, employing artificial intelligence systems. In fact, some of the problems our world faces today are so large and complex that they do require the power of AI systems—along with human intelligence—to resolve them. Things like climatic systems, medicine, energy, manufacturing, supply chains...
Did techbros tell you that ? We know how to solve the climate crisis. Stop believing and repeating what some techbro tell you
Without tech we'd still be starving illiterate farmers. Tech is good. Tech needs regulation to benefit society.
No, they didn't. I've worked in the sustainability sector for a few decades.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TESCREAL?wprov=sfla1
You've got an even more optimistic view of it than I.
A fully autonomous AGI is absolutely a desire of military officials and despotic governments all over the world. I don't expect anything as mad as the scenario from Horizon Zero Dawn, but an autonomous gun platform mass murdering civilians because an officer didn't know how to give it good instructions? Or worse yet an officer or despot giving the drones instructions that humans might balk at like slaughtering a bunch of unarmed women and children.
That's absolutely 100% going to happen if a reliable autonomous decision making program can be created.
I remain hopeful that another AI winter of decades will happen, and even if it doesn't people proposing alternate models aren't going to be any more successful than the people trying for it with LLMs.
"If you have a system that wants to generate profit over everything else ... " - but the problem then is with the system
When I was in college, AI was my passion. In fact AI has been my passion and dream for the past 3 decades ever since college days. The past almost 2 years (since chatgpt) have been tough to the degree that now I don't even want to tell any one that I am interested in AI any more, as that word now just reminds me of grifters and swindlers. To me, AI is more about discovering and modelling how the mind and brain works. It is such an interesting and beautiful subject. GenAI and LLM just nauseate me and make me feel like wanting to puke.
I feel a bit the same
what you describe can only be achieved with automation of human labour and only AI can do that, not the current "AI" but a real AI. The other thing that needs to change is that automation/AI must become a property of all people not just some bunch of tech bros
For the record, Nvidia’s stock would have to go to about $50 for you to say the AI bubble has popped.
We are a long long ways from that happening in reality.
Please...STOP!!!
What I find amazing is that nobody else that I follow is talking about this retrenchment and clear turning point.
I feel that there is a lot of denial going on at the highest levels and that even many people that I have trusted as sound decision makers are being fooled.
Get your jackets, Winter is here!
this article is about financial markets overvaluing.
AI's trillion dollar time bomb
https://youtu.be/dx-tMK7w5g8?si=SZvRn3UAsLSPNfsU
LLMs - no reasoning, no knowledge, no motivation. Not a route to "AGI"
The usual ebb and flow.
"Still, I won’t declare victory on my predictions of the deflation of GenAI bubble yet."
That is wise. Times have never been better, despite the hype.
Next we will see intelligent agents that can do reasoning and planning. Approximate reasoning, of course, but a notable improvement from what we have now.
Yah this is when we all renew our yoga class memberships...