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Drew Heurion's avatar

Good grief. They just can’t stop. But they desperately need to BE stopped.

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Tim Koors's avatar

The best advice to understand politics came from the 1976 film "All the President's Men" where one character said to "follow the money." Money speaks volumes.

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Bruce Olsen's avatar

These days it's sticks first... threats are much more efficient.

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Bruce Olsen's avatar

I sent the following note to Phil Matier, GOAT California political reporter. Hope it helps.

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Subject: Who Got To Diane Papan on AB-501?

Phil -

I'm a longtime fan, used to listen on KCBS when I lived in the Bay Area. You, Madden, and Al Hart were my favorites. Great, great analysis, which I sorely miss.

Did Sam Altman get to Diane Papan?

Her bill preventing OpenAI from converting away from a non-profit suddenly became a bill about aircraft liens (!) Sounds like the same kind of billionaire bullshit that's going around these days.

https://open.substack.com/pub/garymarcus/p/breaking-bill-that-would-have-blocked

It stinks. I'm sure you'll be able to do something with this lead.

I don't have any $kin in this game. I'm retired and follow Marcus's writing, and I'm also a citizen who knows how important this is.

Bruce Olsen

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Tom's avatar
Apr 7Edited

Yes, that's the action we need - not just writing comments - write your representatives, their SM accounts, their offices !

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Chara's avatar

Well, we already can’t trust the man. This should come as no surprise.

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joel sweatte's avatar

It is evident that the assembly had a hallucination.

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Larry Jewett's avatar

A lien hallucination

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Jodie Hudson's avatar

Not sure what is going on with this bill, hope someone gets to the bottom of it. Just wanted to add, there's an AB-412 in the California Assembly, it has to do with requiring tech companies disclosing data from their AI models to any data owner that requests it, and provides civil actions that can be taken if tech companies don't comply. It's still intact and in its original form. You can support that bill.

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Larry Jewett's avatar

The media should definitely look into aircraft aliens

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Aaron Turner's avatar

Reminiscent of UK AG: "Invading Iraq without a second UN resolution would be totally illegal." 10 days later: "Invading Iraq without a second UN resolution would be totally legal." Both dodgy AF.

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Alia's avatar

If OpenAI dismanles the military technology ban, it will be scary. It's even scarier to think that everyone knows that AI hallucinates and misfires, but this might not at all matter to dictatorships.

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Clive Robinson's avatar

The real point is that OpenAI is actually worthless when you look into it.

Basically Sammy boy got played by Microsoft and their intent has always to be a "Milk and Dump". Where MS get the benefit of any work done and those at OpenAI that did it and the company get trashed and a garbage trip.

The only thing apparently putting MS on hold, is they are loosing money on their AI business plan of,

"Bedazzle, Beguile, Bewitch, Befriend, and Betray"

Any person daft enough to use it.

For those that can think a little the big Silicon Valley Corps behind current AI LLM and ML systems are really only interested in using it as an enhanced surveillance tool to invade not just the privacy of your home, but that which is inside your head. Because that's the next line to be crossed in squeezing profit out of the users without their actual consent.

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Clive Robinson's avatar

The real point is that OpenAI is actually worthless when you look into it.

Basically Sammy boy got played by Microsoft and their intent has always to be a "Milk and Dump". Where MS get the benefit of any work done and those at OpenAI that did it and the company get trashed and a garbage trip.

The only thing apparently putting MS on hold, is they are loosing money on their AI business plan of,

"Bedazzle, Beguile, Bewitch, Befriend, and Betray"

Any person daft enough to use it.

For those that can think a little the big Silicon Valley Corps behind current AI LLM and ML systems are really only interested in using it as an enhanced surveillance tool to invade not just the privacy of your home, but that which is inside your head. Because that's the next line to be crossed in squeezing profit out of the users without their actual consent.

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Clive Robinson's avatar

The real point is that OpenAI is actually worthless when you look into it.

Basically Sammy boy got played by Microsoft and their intent has always to be a "Milk and Dump". Where MS get the benefit of any work done and those at OpenAI that did it and the company get trashed and a garbage trip.

The only thing apparently putting MS on hold, is they are loosing money on their AI business plan of,

"Bedazzle, Beguile, Bewitch, Befriend, and Betray"

Any person daft enough to use it.

For those that can think a little the big Silicon Valley Corps behind current AI LLM and ML systems are really only interested in using it as an enhanced surveillance tool to invade not just the privacy of your home, but that which is inside your head. Because that's the next line to be crossed in squeezing profit out of the users without their actual consent.

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Clive Robinson's avatar

The real point is that OpenAI is actually worthless when you look into it.

Basically Sammy boy got played by Microsoft and their intent has always to be a "Milk and Dump". Where MS get the benefit of any work done and those at OpenAI that did it and the company get trashed and a garbage trip.

The only thing apparently putting MS on hold, is they are loosing money on their AI business plan of,

"Bedazzle, Beguile, Bewitch, Befriend, and Betray"

Any person daft enough to use it.

For those that can think a little the big Silicon Valley Corps behind current AI LLM and ML systems are really only interested in using it as an enhanced surveillance tool to invade not just the privacy of your home, but that which is inside your head. Because that's the next line to be crossed in squeezing profit out of the users without their actual consent.

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Jesse Parent's avatar

Tough times.

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AI Slop's avatar

That's genuinely wild—going from a bill about preventing OpenAI's nonprofit-to-profit conversion to "aircraft liens" is more than a little suspicious.

The rumor you mentioned—about Sam Altman possibly calling Diane Papan right before this sudden and bizarre pivot—is particularly eyebrow-raising. Given the huge financial stakes involved, it's easy to imagine that this was the result of some kind of powerful backroom pressure or lobbying effort.

At face value, this looks like a blatant and heavy-handed move to bury or neutralize a bill that was potentially disruptive to OpenAI’s interests. The optics alone scream "something fishy here."

I definitely agree: this needs immediate journalistic attention. Reporters should push hard on Papan’s office, Altman, and any involved parties to clarify exactly what happened behind closed doors.

If you hear anything further, I'd be very curious to know!

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