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Jim Amos's avatar

It's IPO theater. Trump didn't make enough money on SpaceX today so he agreed to help Dario hype up Mythos. Once the ban is lifted, every enterprise in America will want to use it. Then they'll IPO.

Chris Blue's avatar

Im no fanboy for any politician, including Trump. The reality is Dario has asked the U.S. government for this oversight. I have to say the American public is so bewildered by brilliant PR.

FYI, Trump doesn’t need more money and his stock trades are done by pros.

You can see his account trades like 80 times per day which guarantees a firm is trading on his behalf. Of course, it would be illegal for potus to trade with insider knowledge. The democrats would certainly charge him with a crime

What this is today is even more PR. It reminds me when all the imbeciles were believing the US military had and used “autonomous weapons”. Next we’re going to require operators licenses to fly in Warp Speed!

jibal jibal's avatar

> Im no fanboy for any politician, including Trump.

No, you just carry his water.

> Trump doesn’t need more money

He doesn't seem to know that.

> it would be illegal for potus to trade with insider knowledge

A great many things Trump does are illegal.

> The democrats would certainly charge him with a crime

"charge" as in saying he's committing crimes? Yes, and they have done so repeatedly. "charge" as in file criminal charges against him? They don't have that power.

Chris Blue's avatar

“Carry his water is a loaded political term” it makes no point other than you identifying your adversary.

Trump isn’t making 80 trades per day.

POTUS doing something “illegal” requires it’s outside the scope of duties. You don’t have a single example that’s outside of the scope of duties. An attorney that just graduated can argue the case.

“They don’t have that power” is like saying they don’t have any money after gambling at the casino and losing.

John Hecht's avatar

"it would be illegal for potus to trade with insider knowledge" Dream on, Chris. Before this admin sure. Now, heavens forbid. And heaven help us, even if you don't belive in that stuff, we could sure use the help.

Tiny Tim's avatar

That's a lot of benefit of the doubt given to Trump, someone that has manipulated anything and everything in the name of greed. But yet there's suspicion for Anthrophic. Imbalance logic. Sure sounds like you're a fanboy.

Chris Blue's avatar

Riiight. Is that really how you read that?

richardstevenhack's avatar

Good point. Answers the "cui bono" part of my post.

Chris Blue's avatar

Kind of missing the Forrest for the trees.

Mitchell Harper's avatar

If the criteria for releasing a model is "can never be manipulated into having heuristic guardrails bypassed" then everyone involved is in for a major lesson in information theory...

Maybe this is just someone being spooked and pulling a heavy trigger. Other theories:

If you kill the company before the IPO, then there is less pressure from the public to bail out the company after the money carousel stops. Maybe they want to only have to worry about bailing out one or two companies and they trust Anthropic the least.

Maybe this is part of a negotiation for an equity stake by the US government in Anthropic. A heavy handed tactic, but it does show who the boss is and what they can demand.

I'm a bit sick at the bread and circuses of it all when this government is responsible for warheads flying around that could kill anyone out of hundreds of millions of people. Maybe this is just "strong action" to build a political distraction for the Trump base that Trump is "serious about national security" given the disastrous failure of adventurism by CENTCOM/the Zionist colony in West Asia. There is a pressing need for this distraction from the major capitulation the US is having to make to Iran as we speak.

richardstevenhack's avatar

That "government stake" is that the Deep State wants these models solely for their own use.

Although it could be as you say, a threat to make Anthropic accept some government money - and control over any future model.

Mitchell Harper's avatar

I've been trying to figure out how I feel about this theory, because I can't reject it outright and it may in fact be a goal of some groups in the US government.

However, this does seem like a really stupid thing to do if this is in fact the calculus. This kind of action spooks markets and has implications across sectors beyond IT. Who at the NSA needs a mediocre vulnerability scanner? The NSA likely has fuzzers and code analysis tools and new software version regression checks for all of the major pieces of software they target. The idea that adversaries able to inflict a scale of damage on par with the reputational damage to US markets incurred by this aggressive action are meaningfully better able to do damage to the US with access to yet another LLM is BS to me.

I can't find a non-hysteria driven motive for why the US government would want exclusive access to "frontier" models. And unless the US government is going to be completely subsidizing training and inference of "frontier" models into perpetuity, the US is tampering with the funding stream used to create the capability they want exclusive access over.

Catherine Blanche King's avatar

I wish we knew the details, but I know this: I'd feel better about it if it weren't Trump and Co. where anything that happens has the smell of bribery wafting all around.

ScuzzaMan's avatar

Yeah, because that's a completely novel concern we never had to consider before ...

Catherine Blanche King's avatar

ScuzzaMan: It used to matter, before the firehose of corruption showed up.

Mike Archbold's avatar

Our federal government is just off the rails.

Catherine Blanche King's avatar

Mike Archbold--it seems to have that air about it.

richardstevenhack's avatar

No, unless you mean Constitutional rails.

It's on the rails of the moneyed interests - and always has been.

Mike Archbold's avatar

The federal government leadership is a group of corrupt idiots, crackpots, and crazy people! -- just to make it clear. That's off the rails.

richardstevenhack's avatar

Yup.

But the people behind them are "crazy like a fox".

Of course, the end result will be the same: Everyone gets screwed - even them.

It's human nature at work.

Jason Nyberg's avatar

"After another company claimed it could jailbreak Mythos"

Gee that doesn't sound underhanded *at all*

Patricio Rodriguez's avatar

Might be too paranoid but really sounds like a marketing ploy... The model was "so powerful" the goverment "had to" step in...

I don't know, big tech is in bed with the US Goverment

Aiman Najjar's avatar

You're not paranoid. And the markets are starting to sense it, they're just faking it with the help of the US government.

Jim Amos's avatar

I called it as soon as I saw the announcement. This is marketing for their IPO. The govt are either complicit or incredibly gullible.

richardstevenhack's avatar

Given how far Anthropic has gone so far with their marketing, entirely possible.

They spent quite a bit of effort getting that Pope PR event.

Ken Kovar's avatar

SpaceX IPOd today. Coincidence 😃

Gary Marcus's avatar

it will hurt the whole US tech industry. hell, SpaceX is leasing to Anthropic.

Jim Ryan's avatar

Well why the hell not?? The farmers supported him too and look what happened to them! Lie with dogs, get up with fleas.

D Stone's avatar

"The beatings will continue until morale improves. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Capt Trump, U.S.S. Caine"

Aiman Najjar's avatar

This is all part of hyping up AI and the markets. They are all, together, faking it in hope of one day they make it because they're too cowardly to face the AI bubble pop after their reckless behavior for years. They have no plan except to invent a lie after another and continue to BS investors with scary headline after another.

John Michael Thomas's avatar

I agree this is not the way to regulate AI.

But I'm not surprised that they targeted Anthropic with it specifically, considering how much Anthropic intentionally and massively over-hyped Mythos.

Perhaps this will teach Anthropic and other AI hucksters a lesson, that over-hyping their technology can have negative consequences.

(OK, ok, I don't really think any of them will learn anything either...but we can always hope).

Fukitol's avatar

Lawfare, hawkery, corporate espionage, or... just a marketing campaign.

John J's avatar

Nothing drives demand as much as being told you can’t have something. Lutnick skews venal. This doesn’t smell right.

Scott Burson's avatar

Uh, I'm not so sure this was a bad idea, at least temporarily while we figure out a better way. Did you see this? https://red.anthropic.com/2026/n-days/

webbovich's avatar

I was running Fable5 as your post came in. Looked up to see how it was going - “there’s an issue with your model (Fable5). It may not exist or you don’t have access to it”. Damn

webbovich's avatar

Something like that, yes. Recent coffee chats with mates have touched on sovereign models and data, even with five-eyes agreements in place. Actions like this reinforce that new concern.

TedNyang's avatar

Same here, been working all over night, then suddenly 😭

Francis Turner's avatar

Seems to me Anthropic's fear marketing may have been too good. Sucks to be them. Because in order to appeal this they are presumably going to have to walk back all those (hyped IMHO) claims about how dangerous mythos is etc. So now we get the US Gov asking them to explain how what they say now in June/July 2026 doesn't contradict all the stuff they said about mythos in March 2026... should be fun to read

richardstevenhack's avatar

As an aside, another "Friday Night Special" from the Trump administration - to go along with the 39th "an Iran deal is close" market manipulation stunt.

As for the latter, there appears to be an agreed upon Memorandum of Understanding, but there will be no signing meeting in Geneva or anywhere else this weekend, per Iranian sources. And based on Trump's response today to the Iranian media revealing the alleged gist of the MoU, which blows away most of Trump's declared goals, it's likely there won't be one.