"If AI has significant negative externalities upon the world, we the citizens are screwed." Not only screwed, but stuck with the bill, that is should any of us still remain.
Imagine being trapped in a autonomous car against your own volition that's among other things still highly prone to errors and due to cost cutting has less sensors. There is no steering wheel for you to take over and yet you are forced to pay for the car, it's insurance, energy bills and rides it takes you on. Also, better hope your poorly trained smart car is "good enough" to avoid hitting pedestrians and not crashing. That's what the tech bros wanna do to everyone - force us to use their subpar crap and dodge responsibility when crap hits the fan.
Vance has also threatened the EU with tariffs or even leaving NATO if they regulate Tech, just to let everyone know who’s really in charge
We really need the EU to call their bluff here, a first step that I’ve been begging for for over a year now is to end the myth that the social media platforms are neutral platforms like the phone company and start treating them like publishers for anything they algorithm pushes into your feed from someone you don’t follow
If they’re too scared to regulate Facebook they’re not gonna touch AI (speaking of Facebook, why is a trillion dollar company filled with scam ads, it’s like their entire business model is to direct scammers to marks, at the very least start holding the platforms legally liable for any paid posts on their platforms)
Yes - a global scam ads platform pretty much sums up Meta. Ironically, this bit of "globalist" reach somehow escapes the anti-globalist take of Thiel-ists.
Vance’s boss is busy legislating morality and regulating interstate commerce at home, so to see JD finger wag at the Europeans while dictating what they should and shouldn’t do is totally unsurprising. I mean he’s telling the Catholic Church on how to be Catholic. The gall.
The Catholic converts are often the worst, never trust people who got into a religion because they liked the fancy dress and the idea of making people submit to authority
I still don't understand your faith and optimism regarding AI. Reason driven culture is quickly becoming a thing of the past; when the people who control content platforms are busy conditioning AI acceptance, making the tech ubiquitous, capitulation is close behind. How exactly can there be countervailing pressure? Where would it organize, where would it "message?"
I get your downtroddeness. SV authoritarians, technolibertarians, AI hype bros, tech bros have won the initial hurdle of tricking and bribing governments/politicians into accepting AI as some inevitability. One must realise that the vast majority of such politicians are clueless about the technology. Unfortunately they really are that ignorant and think AI is the next computer or internet. And all this at a time where many developed countries are absolutely desperate for economic growth.
But as you say it is forced. You can't force adoption of a humanity changing technology. You can't force workers to use a tool if they do not find it useful at cost. You cannot force the people to like it.
Organically AI has been a complete failure. The global revenue for AI software is ~$10B and it has already reached mainstream saturation and awareness. The Information leaked that MSFT Copilot had an adoption rate of 0.1-1% for businesses....after being on the market for two years!
The people, workers and creatives have the power and can absolutely stand up to the absolute hubris of technocrats and corrupt politicians. The economics and consumer adoption cannot be forced, the biggest battle is yet to come: LLM's being a humanity scale theft of copyrighted works.
The biggest anti-AI, anti-LLM crowds are being formed standing behind writers, actors, artists, musicians, video game devs etc. The creatives have enormous cultural power and enormous public power, with tens of millions of fans. Fans and creatives are writing and constantly complaining to politicians about Copyright violation and there are already a dozen lawsuits.
The stand will be with Copyright. Supporting your creatives and fans in their fight against AI is the most effective way of killing the technocrats scheme.
Stupid question: why does the US care if the EU "over-regulates", isn't that good for the US; as in, US companies are better positioned in the AI race (assuming the race-narrative) than EU companies?
You have 300 million of the wealthiest consumers on earth there, big tech has taken over the US Govt so now they want to get the US Govt to bully the EU out of regulating them, Vance even used the idea of leaving NATO as a threat to the EU if they regulated tech, just to let everyone know who’s really calling the shots in the White House these days
Biological organisms (kind of "societies of cells") also need growth in order to not become extinct. Still they put strict regulation on their cells. Because uncontrolled growth is cancer and can kill the entire organism.
I was suspecting it when I saw a woman who’s a house wife being an AI tutor during 6 months for xAI. She does space after space to monetise her account as a specialist in robotics. Yesterday, she was barely able to read the article of the Wall Street Journal about Musk wanting to buy OpenAI and thought it was an example of fake news while Musk and Altman confirmed it was true - or a little bit of coordinated marketing from the 2 of them.
After watching this play out as an outsider of Silicon Valley and have watched what they have done for three decades and being part of the music business, I know way trust anything these people say or do. The Silicon valley types are from a different clothe and mindset. Us outsiders do not understand their ravenous ruthless mindset. I look at actions. All of the actions have destroyed music. All of these puff pieces about how they saved music I just laugh. Now with A.I music has been officially dehumanized while using all of human output yet not properly compensating yet now Open A.i is charging you to use there service. Suno/Udio are the same. No one partnered! They just rip and then say sue me. TIME IS WHAT THEY NEED NOT MONEY. Suing is in their favor. the legal system is to slow. While you sue they are still ripping!! The political system gets to much money from Silicon valley so going that route is not going to work. You have to go outside the system because the system is to bought and paid. If anyone wishes change a total strategy overhaul is needed.... Not a tactical one.
Apparently Yale Law School taught him sophistry. It feels like we are in a nosedive straight into dystopia whereas a few months ago I would laugh it off. I wouldn't listen to Vance or anyone else in MAGA, a lot of serpent-tongued sophistry designed to give billionaires the United States.
Their plan is to sell their AI models to the government and then replace all the fired government workers and civil servants with AI. They don't care if we, the people, starve.
What is truly scary is the conceptual/ideological/intellectual environment in Silicon Valley and I am not talking about computer science. It begins with a radical libertarian viewpoint progresses to the odd emergence of Transhumanism and goes on to the more recent emergence of the Dark Enlightenment school which I have seen described as a neo-fascist, anti-democratic, anti-egalitarian political movement and philosophy. Its goal is a dystopian future led by tech overlords.
Meghan O'Gieblyn writes about the odd parallels between Christian eschatology and Transhumanism in her book "God, Human, Animal, Machine" an interesting read that I recommend. You can see how AI plays a role in this thinking as humans meld with computers to open the possibility of immortality for tech bros basking as they bask in the glow of the Singularity.
The toxic ideas of the Dark Enlightenment are pushed by writers such as Nick Land and Curtis Yarvin and in the discussion of the Dark Enlightenment the names Peter Thiel and Elon Musk sometimes also pop up.
There is a tough road ahead. They want to change the world and not in a good way.
"If AI has significant negative externalities upon the world, we the citizens are screwed." Not only screwed, but stuck with the bill, that is should any of us still remain.
Imagine being trapped in a autonomous car against your own volition that's among other things still highly prone to errors and due to cost cutting has less sensors. There is no steering wheel for you to take over and yet you are forced to pay for the car, it's insurance, energy bills and rides it takes you on. Also, better hope your poorly trained smart car is "good enough" to avoid hitting pedestrians and not crashing. That's what the tech bros wanna do to everyone - force us to use their subpar crap and dodge responsibility when crap hits the fan.
Who would have thought that randomly correct answers would have become a competitive multi-billion dollar industry.
Well, multi-billions spent so far. Waiting on that revenue…
The insanely expensive, randomly insane answers (AI) is not an "industry" and it is not competitive.
JD Vance is an lawyer. He doesn't have a clue how any of it works.
Will you join our protests?
Email me more info please
Emailed you! Hope to get to talk to you tonight!
Vance has also threatened the EU with tariffs or even leaving NATO if they regulate Tech, just to let everyone know who’s really in charge
We really need the EU to call their bluff here, a first step that I’ve been begging for for over a year now is to end the myth that the social media platforms are neutral platforms like the phone company and start treating them like publishers for anything they algorithm pushes into your feed from someone you don’t follow
If they’re too scared to regulate Facebook they’re not gonna touch AI (speaking of Facebook, why is a trillion dollar company filled with scam ads, it’s like their entire business model is to direct scammers to marks, at the very least start holding the platforms legally liable for any paid posts on their platforms)
Yes - a global scam ads platform pretty much sums up Meta. Ironically, this bit of "globalist" reach somehow escapes the anti-globalist take of Thiel-ists.
Well Thiel is a major owner of Meta isn’t he?
What’s that quote? Something like
“It’s hard to make a man understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it “
Vance’s boss is busy legislating morality and regulating interstate commerce at home, so to see JD finger wag at the Europeans while dictating what they should and shouldn’t do is totally unsurprising. I mean he’s telling the Catholic Church on how to be Catholic. The gall.
Vances’ boss is Peter Thiel, and we are all fucked.
Touche...
The Catholic converts are often the worst, never trust people who got into a religion because they liked the fancy dress and the idea of making people submit to authority
Lecturing Europeans for not being Americans plays very well to his base.
Yeah the do-as-you-are-told-and-you're-being-woke-if-you-tell-ME-what-and-how-to-do disease is decidedly very American now.
I still don't understand your faith and optimism regarding AI. Reason driven culture is quickly becoming a thing of the past; when the people who control content platforms are busy conditioning AI acceptance, making the tech ubiquitous, capitulation is close behind. How exactly can there be countervailing pressure? Where would it organize, where would it "message?"
I get your downtroddeness. SV authoritarians, technolibertarians, AI hype bros, tech bros have won the initial hurdle of tricking and bribing governments/politicians into accepting AI as some inevitability. One must realise that the vast majority of such politicians are clueless about the technology. Unfortunately they really are that ignorant and think AI is the next computer or internet. And all this at a time where many developed countries are absolutely desperate for economic growth.
But as you say it is forced. You can't force adoption of a humanity changing technology. You can't force workers to use a tool if they do not find it useful at cost. You cannot force the people to like it.
Organically AI has been a complete failure. The global revenue for AI software is ~$10B and it has already reached mainstream saturation and awareness. The Information leaked that MSFT Copilot had an adoption rate of 0.1-1% for businesses....after being on the market for two years!
The people, workers and creatives have the power and can absolutely stand up to the absolute hubris of technocrats and corrupt politicians. The economics and consumer adoption cannot be forced, the biggest battle is yet to come: LLM's being a humanity scale theft of copyrighted works.
The biggest anti-AI, anti-LLM crowds are being formed standing behind writers, actors, artists, musicians, video game devs etc. The creatives have enormous cultural power and enormous public power, with tens of millions of fans. Fans and creatives are writing and constantly complaining to politicians about Copyright violation and there are already a dozen lawsuits.
The stand will be with Copyright. Supporting your creatives and fans in their fight against AI is the most effective way of killing the technocrats scheme.
I loved the book!
I just bought your book--don't spoil it!
Stupid question: why does the US care if the EU "over-regulates", isn't that good for the US; as in, US companies are better positioned in the AI race (assuming the race-narrative) than EU companies?
International corporations don't give a flying fig about the United States. They want to be able to sell in every market on Earth.
Ahhh, so it makes entering EU markets for US companies harder?
You have 300 million of the wealthiest consumers on earth there, big tech has taken over the US Govt so now they want to get the US Govt to bully the EU out of regulating them, Vance even used the idea of leaving NATO as a threat to the EU if they regulated tech, just to let everyone know who’s really calling the shots in the White House these days
Biological organisms (kind of "societies of cells") also need growth in order to not become extinct. Still they put strict regulation on their cells. Because uncontrolled growth is cancer and can kill the entire organism.
I was suspecting it when I saw a woman who’s a house wife being an AI tutor during 6 months for xAI. She does space after space to monetise her account as a specialist in robotics. Yesterday, she was barely able to read the article of the Wall Street Journal about Musk wanting to buy OpenAI and thought it was an example of fake news while Musk and Altman confirmed it was true - or a little bit of coordinated marketing from the 2 of them.
After watching this play out as an outsider of Silicon Valley and have watched what they have done for three decades and being part of the music business, I know way trust anything these people say or do. The Silicon valley types are from a different clothe and mindset. Us outsiders do not understand their ravenous ruthless mindset. I look at actions. All of the actions have destroyed music. All of these puff pieces about how they saved music I just laugh. Now with A.I music has been officially dehumanized while using all of human output yet not properly compensating yet now Open A.i is charging you to use there service. Suno/Udio are the same. No one partnered! They just rip and then say sue me. TIME IS WHAT THEY NEED NOT MONEY. Suing is in their favor. the legal system is to slow. While you sue they are still ripping!! The political system gets to much money from Silicon valley so going that route is not going to work. You have to go outside the system because the system is to bought and paid. If anyone wishes change a total strategy overhaul is needed.... Not a tactical one.
This feels like nothing but gloom and doom ahead of us.
Apparently Yale Law School taught him sophistry. It feels like we are in a nosedive straight into dystopia whereas a few months ago I would laugh it off. I wouldn't listen to Vance or anyone else in MAGA, a lot of serpent-tongued sophistry designed to give billionaires the United States.
Their plan is to sell their AI models to the government and then replace all the fired government workers and civil servants with AI. They don't care if we, the people, starve.
Unplug their machines.
It is more than just AI.
What is truly scary is the conceptual/ideological/intellectual environment in Silicon Valley and I am not talking about computer science. It begins with a radical libertarian viewpoint progresses to the odd emergence of Transhumanism and goes on to the more recent emergence of the Dark Enlightenment school which I have seen described as a neo-fascist, anti-democratic, anti-egalitarian political movement and philosophy. Its goal is a dystopian future led by tech overlords.
Meghan O'Gieblyn writes about the odd parallels between Christian eschatology and Transhumanism in her book "God, Human, Animal, Machine" an interesting read that I recommend. You can see how AI plays a role in this thinking as humans meld with computers to open the possibility of immortality for tech bros basking as they bask in the glow of the Singularity.
The toxic ideas of the Dark Enlightenment are pushed by writers such as Nick Land and Curtis Yarvin and in the discussion of the Dark Enlightenment the names Peter Thiel and Elon Musk sometimes also pop up.
There is a tough road ahead. They want to change the world and not in a good way.